{"id":17183,"date":"2015-02-11T15:16:20","date_gmt":"2015-02-11T23:16:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aidanmoher.com\/blog\/?p=17183"},"modified":"2015-02-12T20:28:43","modified_gmt":"2015-02-13T04:28:43","slug":"chatting-michael-j-sullivan-half-million-dollar-deal-first-empire","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aidanmoher.com\/blog\/2015\/02\/news\/chatting-michael-j-sullivan-half-million-dollar-deal-first-empire\/","title":{"rendered":"Chatting with Michael J. Sullivan about his half-million dollar deal for <em>The First Empire<\/em>"},"content":{"rendered":"<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/aidanmoher.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/Michael_sullivan_portrait_200_300.jpg\" alt=\"Michael J. Sullivan Portrait\" width=\"200\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-17189\" \/>\n<p>Michael J. Sullivan is one of fantasy&#8217;s most prominent self-publishing success stories. His debut series, the <em>Riyira Revelations<\/em>, sold 90,000 units before Sullivan sold the publishing rights to Orbit Books in 2011. Since then, he&#8217;s been a poster boy for <a href=\"https:\/\/aidanmoher.com\/blog\/featured-article\/2014\/04\/unconventional-publishing-by-michael-j-sullivan\/\" title=\"\u201cUnconventional Publishing\u201d by Michael J. Sullivan\">Hybrid Publishing<\/a>, an approach that allows authors to leverage the strengths of both the traditional publishing model and self publishing to their advantage and the advantage of their readers.<\/p>\n<p>Yesterday, Sullivan announced that he&#8217;s sold <em>The First Empire<\/em>, a new epic fantasy set in the same world as the <em>Riyira Revelations<\/em> to Del Rey. The deal includes the first four volumes of the series: <em>Rhune<\/em>, <em>Dherg<\/em>, <em>Rhist <\/em>and <em>Phyre<\/em>. I caught up with Sullivan to chat about the new series and his half-million dollar deal.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<em>The First Empire<\/em> series is based in the same world as the Riyria books, but it takes place several thousand years in the past,&#8221; Sullivan told me when I asked what the new series had to offer old fans.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>But, you don&#8217;t have to be an entrenched fan to be excited about Sullivan&#8217;s new series. &#8220;It&#8217;s designed such that readers won\u2019t need to know anything about <em>Riyria<\/em>, so it should appeal to both new and existing readers. That being said, for those that <em>have<\/em> read <em>Riyria<\/em>, they\u2019ll learn that certain aspects of Elan\u2019s past aren&#8217;t exactly true. I\u2019m enjoying exploring the differences between myth and reality, and hopefully that exploration will be fun for existing readers as well.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Sullivan spent years working in the world of Elan, the setting featured in <em>The Riyira Revelations<\/em>, and had to shift into a different mindset when it came time to delve into its history for <em>The First Empire<\/em>, to explore the origins of magic in his world. &#8220;That part was easy because I had already done it when writing <em>Riyria<\/em>,&#8221; Sullivan said.<\/p>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/aidanmoher.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/Sullivan_Theft-of-Swords-TP-203x300.jpg\" alt=\"Theft of Swords by Michael J. Sullivan\" width=\"203\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-6213\" srcset=\"https:\/\/aidanmoher.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/Sullivan_Theft-of-Swords-TP-203x300.jpg 203w, https:\/\/aidanmoher.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/Sullivan_Theft-of-Swords-TP.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 203px) 100vw, 203px\" \/>\n<p>&#8220;Before I started those books, I had a history of Elan going back 8,000 years. I had extensive notes about the various classes and technology and knew that magic was much more prevalent back then. An important plot element of <em>The First Empire<\/em> is showing what happens when magic enters into the world, and how it disrupts the power structure. I did all that as background for <em>Riyria<\/em>, but most of it never appeared on the pages of those books. So, for the new series, all I needed to do was to tap into that existing cannon. For me, it was nice to see that stuff I had previously come up with have its day on the stage.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Sullivan first made a name for himself among fantasy fans when he self-published <em>The Riyira Revelations<\/em> to much financial success before signing a more traditional publishing deal with Orbit Books However, <em>The First Empire<\/em> is being published not by Sullivan but from an new traditional publisher: Del Rey. What prompted this switch?<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m a huge fan of self-publishing and know very well about how financially lucrative it can be,&#8221; Sullivan admitted, addressing the surprising move to a new traditional publisher. &#8220;For my traditionally published works, my reason for signing has always been to take my career to the next level.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>While happy with Orbit&#8217;s dedication to the <em>Riyira<\/em> novels, Sullivan recognized that their vision for his next series was diverging from his own. &#8220;I think Orbit did a great job with <em>The Riyria Revelations<\/em>, and it has made both of us a lot of money, but I saw <em>The First Empire<\/em> as an opportunity to raise my profile yet again. To that end, I had one requirement, which was to release in hardcover. Orbit didn\u2019t agree with that vision. Fortunately, the other publishers making offers did. Trying to do a hardcover release through self-publishing wouldn\u2019t have been easy, but if none of the publishers agreed, I was prepared to do exactly that.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>And the new book deal, a &#8220;major deal&#8221; from Del Rey covering four volumes of <em>The First Empire<\/em> series, is no slouch, either. Sullivan is set to make a minimum of $500,000 for the book\/eBook publication, and another $100,000 &#8211; $250,000 in a separate deal for the audiobooks. Those are major numbers. &#8220;The term &#8216;major deal&#8217; comes from the deal categories used by Publisher\u2019s Marketplace,&#8221; Sullivan explained. &#8220;It\u2019s more of less the industry standard for talking about publishing advances in &#8216;broad terms.&#8217;  The &#8216;major deal&#8217; category is the highest there is and represents deals that are at least half a million dollars.<\/p>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/aidanmoher.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/rhune_by_michael_j_sullivan.jpg\" alt=\"rhune_by_michael_j_sullivan\" width=\"1015\" height=\"568\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17187\" srcset=\"https:\/\/aidanmoher.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/rhune_by_michael_j_sullivan.jpg 1015w, https:\/\/aidanmoher.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/rhune_by_michael_j_sullivan-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/aidanmoher.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/rhune_by_michael_j_sullivan-648x363.jpg 648w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1015px) 100vw, 1015px\" \/>\n<blockquote class=\"pull right\"><p>The &#8216;major deal&#8217; category is the highest there is and represents deals that are at least half a million dollars.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8220;Beyond that, it\u2019s also a major deal for two other reasons.  First, Del Rey felt strongly enough about the series to offer a 4-book deal.  In general, they prefer not to go beyond three books so this speaks volumes about how they feel about the series.  Secondly, the deal was a preempt which means a high bid meant to prevent opposing players from bidding. When Del Rey&#8217;s offer came in, I didn\u2019t need to see any more offers. I already had a) the publisher I wanted and b) an offer that I thought respected both me and my work.  Even if someone else came in higher, it wouldn\u2019t have changed my mind.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Sullivan adheres to a rigorous writing schedule, drafting out the entirety of the series in manuscript form before selling even the first book. &#8220;Like Riyria, I want to write the full series before publishing the first book, and I expect to have the fifth and final book finished in April or May,&#8221; he said. &#8220;I\u2019ll need some time to make some minor modifications to the first book based on things that have happened in the last one.&#8221; Sullivan is nearly done writing the fifth and final book in <em>The First Empire<\/em>, but don&#8217;t let that fool you into thinking a release date for the series is just around the corner. &#8220;The full details of that still have to be worked out. So far, we have been talking about releasing <em>Rhune<\/em> in the summer of 2016.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>What does that mean for the rest of the series? Sullivan says the details are still being worked out. As for the subsequent books, I don\u2019t know the exact spacing. What I do know, is it won\u2019t be the same way Orbit did them. For one thing, books #2 &#8211; #5 have to go through a full editing cycle. The \u201calpha read\u201d can take several months and at least a month to implement the changes. Plus I have to incorporate changes based on things that occur later in the series. Then the \u201cbeta read\u201d starts, and that is a three-month cycle (at a minimum), and then finally it can go to Del Rey for their editing.  So while all the stories are written (or soon will be), there is still a lot of work to take them from manuscript to final book.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Sullivan understand the pressure to publish on a regular schedule, so he has a few other projects on the back burner to fill the time, including a sequel to <em>Hollow World<\/em> and more <em>Riyira<\/em> stories. More news about the publication schedule will be available once the ink dries on Sullivan&#8217;s new contract with Del Rey.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Michael J. Sullivan is one of fantasy&#8217;s most prominent self-publishing success stories. His debut series, the Riyira Revelations, sold 90,000 units before Sullivan sold the publishing rights to Orbit Books in 2011. Since then, he&#8217;s been a poster boy for Hybrid Publishing, an approach that allows authors to leverage the strengths of both the traditional&#8230;  <a class=\"excerpt-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/aidanmoher.com\/blog\/2015\/02\/news\/chatting-michael-j-sullivan-half-million-dollar-deal-first-empire\/\" title=\"ReadChatting with Michael J. 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